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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by the summer, and they actually interviewed petraeus and his paramour broadwell for the second time in september or october. wouldn't they have an obligation to tell the president? >> well, listen. the fbi works with the department of justice and eric holder stated he was aware of the investigation. >> why didn't holder tell the president? >> that i can't answer you. i can tell you that bob muller is a very ethical man, a very good man. >> i have to agree with you, pat. >> no doubt in my mind that they advised the attorney general. why the attorney general did not advise the president i think we need to
if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by...
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the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i think general petraeus has acted honorably in resigning. i think he is going to do fine. he is going to get a book contract. he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. thi
the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i...
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>> when you have a jealous woman, jealous women can out fbi the fbi any day of the week. there is some chemical reaction that turns us into nsa agents. and we will go after those we deem a threat which is apparently what happened here and i guarantee you she knows every pass word she nodes to know. women are better cia agents. no offense, mike baker. >> he says he was in the cia, but the way he dresses it is like, who can believe that? >> he is mad that i didn't go to him first. you were upset. >> i am not. i was laughing about the intro. i haven't actually heard the story introd before. what is your take on this? a, he made a serious, serious mistake. he owned up to it. i think part of the surprise is they are not used to seeing a high level washington official do the right thing after confessing to a mistake. in bill clinton's own words, a couple days before the election he was in an obama rail lee. he stood there and said, you know when i was younger and i was caught with my hand in the cookie jar, i just take my hand out of the cookie jar. we were being lectured about
>> when you have a jealous woman, jealous women can out fbi the fbi any day of the week. there is some chemical reaction that turns us into nsa agents. and we will go after those we deem a threat which is apparently what happened here and i guarantee you she knows every pass word she nodes to know. women are better cia agents. no offense, mike baker. >> he says he was in the cia, but the way he dresses it is like, who can believe that? >> he is mad that i didn't go to him...
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nvestigation, i don't want to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even whenthe administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cross. i did not come across it during the watergate period. neil: we are not after that. this is a scandal that grows in your opinion? or not? >> you know, i endorsed governor romney. but i would like now to the new administration could start without avoidable controversy. but the information was known at a high-level, it is a matter that the countries want to look into. on the whole, i would like to focus on the future. to not have beginning of administration. that would be my attitude. this evidce developed of the major capacity, there will be consequences. neil: we are going to take a quick br
nvestigation, i don't want to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even whenthe administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cross. i did not come across it...
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the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we are addicted to e-mail and we put things in it we don't want to be seen, but we hold the cia director to a higher standard. but i wonder with our military and political figures, to -- if it is in somewhat to elevated now. divorce is soaring in the military. these deployments are hard on families. people are weak and we are stupid in the throes of a romantic affair. do we want to get rid of people like general petraeus when there is no national security breach? the person who should be fired is that fbi agent and all the people who let that go up the chain of command. >> what do you make of that, nina? >> i
the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we...
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kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at random would reveal similarly sorted things. that's the point. we all have facts about ourselves we don't want the world to know. it's why privacy is important. details over our lives matter as a core protection from state overreach. the power that comes from inside knowledge of a person'
kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case...
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and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it stop right there? >> and why did director claerp -- >> why did it become public? i'd like to know. >> why didn't director james clapper at that point say there is no reason to resign. >> oh. you're saying why didn't he say that. he's the white house official who essentially pushed petraeus out. let's come back to the media coverage. sigh these stories as an attempt to keep the story alive. jill kelley visited the white house three times. once was a tour and once when she had lunch with a low level official. even things that are technically true, with they'r
and then there is the serious parter the fbi. en toless rogue agent manages to set off a series of convenients. >> and he was a friend of jill kelley who toppled this investigation. >> this is huge. and do we want the fbi to have an agent who's able to do this in a series of actions? >> and there's still questions, serious questions about the fbi procedures in this. if indeed they concluded early on that there was no national security or criminal issue here, then why didn't it...
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this whole thing was triggered into an fbi investigation due to e-mails sent by two people who were -- how do we put it, having a relationship with petraeus one way or another? >> you know, girls get jealous and start threatening each other on e-mail. >> when did that become an fbi crime? >> this is a reminder that our law enforcement alleges have a lot of discretion into the people they might trigger investigations to be pursued. that's what happened here. the fbi agent deemed this a credible threat, presumably to national security because of the high profile and identity of the alleged target here, general petraeus. >> so once they got into it, though, that's when everything started blowing up. i mean, is anything private? >> well, when the united states government decides it wants information and there's a law enforcement bassos for getting that -- basis for getting that information, e-mail is a very easy to get into source of private data. so, you know, so long as the u.s. government doesn't want to get the u.s. information, people can feel reasonably comfortable that it's not tha
this whole thing was triggered into an fbi investigation due to e-mails sent by two people who were -- how do we put it, having a relationship with petraeus one way or another? >> you know, girls get jealous and start threatening each other on e-mail. >> when did that become an fbi crime? >> this is a reminder that our law enforcement alleges have a lot of discretion into the people they might trigger investigations to be pursued. that's what happened here. the fbi agent...
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former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >> oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. jove oldman, talk radio and jim pinkerton contributing editor the american conservative magazine, and alan colmes, author of thank liberals for saving america and i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. >> this is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the administration and she's the point person, is so disconnected to reality, i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better
former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >>...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> but the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the direction yesterday that th
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> but the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know,...
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that was enough to keep the fbi involved updating director david mueller and attorney generaleribbing holder. >> president obama is in thailand mark the first foreign hip since winning a second trip in the white house. he went to bangkok to meet the 8-year-old king and after walking with the prime ministerof thailand he attend a joint press conference in the -- and addressed the conflict of israel and gaza. he warned ground invasion would increase the death toll. >> there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside the borders. so, we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes and workplaces and potentially killing civilians. >> the president will be making a stop in cambodia during the three-nation tour of asia. >>> preliminary numbers show most virginias came to the pollon election day prepared to comply with the voter id law. figures show less than 5% of the more than 11,000 provisional ballots recorded as of thursday were cast because the voter didn't have the proper id. the law r
that was enough to keep the fbi involved updating director david mueller and attorney generaleribbing holder. >> president obama is in thailand mark the first foreign hip since winning a second trip in the white house. he went to bangkok to meet the 8-year-old king and after walking with the prime ministerof thailand he attend a joint press conference in the -- and addressed the conflict of israel and gaza. he warned ground invasion would increase the death toll. >> there's no...
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we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for example, susan rice's statements more up to scrutiny? >> well, i think answers the fundamental question, did they deliberately mislead on this case for political reasons because they were driving the narrative that al-qaeda had been decimated and the war, war was receding or a question of incompetence. neither of those two things is good for the administration although it's after the election, so, they can get the consequences. >> let's take a look at the president talking about susan rice, the u.n. ambassador who many think he will nominate to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. >> for them to go after
we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for...
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the other extreme is you can look at fbi statistics. you'll see that border areas have less murders. i do not want to get into definitional debate. we can talk about what spillover is. >> you commented. you work yourself as a sponsor for additional resources. i am grateful for you doing that. you brought us the general report. to say that it is improper to say that there is -- washington is in denial. to attack two of our nation's senior military professionals, like you did in the congressional hearing, and when they were merely giving their reflection of what is going on based on their decades of experience -- you are dead wrong. i want to follow up with that. here is why washington is in denial -- the president of the united states comes to the state and makes jokes about the safety and security of our country and joking about the border being safer than ever. we have had 140 dead bodies discovered in the last year alone on two rural texas counties. the statistics are great. no amount of statistics can cover up the bullet holes. >> yo
the other extreme is you can look at fbi statistics. you'll see that border areas have less murders. i do not want to get into definitional debate. we can talk about what spillover is. >> you commented. you work yourself as a sponsor for additional resources. i am grateful for you doing that. you brought us the general report. to say that it is improper to say that there is -- washington is in denial. to attack two of our nation's senior military professionals, like you did in the...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's not quite sure that the white house is telling the truth on this whole thing. all right. doug in washington. thanks. >> well, weeks since super storm sandy slammed on shore and parts of new york city are still struggling to recover. we are live in lower manhattan with the latest on recovery efforts. anna. >> good evening, heather. residents, we just had one come up to us and say she's not going to have power for some eight months. but many of these businesses and residential towers still don't have power or water or heat and don't have reopen dates yet. we are in the south street seaport area, a very historic
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's...
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>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is strictly political? that congressman rodgers is just suggesting some sort of a breach there? >> well the first thing that this brings to mind when it comes to his accusation here is back to during the campaign season when harry reid was accusing governor romney of not having paid taxes for ten years. just sort of throwing this statement out there without anything to back it up. it's not too hard to see how this is, is along the same lines as that. and unless he is able to bring forth some kind of evidence there, it's just another baseless claim it seems. >> okay. up next, the big three with their must-
>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is...
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the former fbi assistant director talks about the fbi role in investigating cyber- related crimes.
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the fbi is slowly shifting over that area. texas got a federal grant several years ago to do that shift. when i got my fbi briefing, texas was only at until%. we can start categorizing more numbers -- texas is only at 12%. we can start categorizing more numbers. i want them out on the street instead of filling out paperwork. but some money there in the state of texas. you can get all the statistics you want. >> two years from now, you may be campaigning for higher offices. when the web site was launched, you had people that were criticizing him. that you're trying to get a jump on other people that might be running for a higher office in 2014. what are your ambitions? as a border security tied to what you might have to say on the campaign trail? >> this web site is tied directly to the president politicizing this quarter. -- border. they elected me to solve problems and not to shun them. 2014 has nothing to do with " what we need to do to solve these problems. when you have drug cartel members cheesing people off the property
the fbi is slowly shifting over that area. texas got a federal grant several years ago to do that shift. when i got my fbi briefing, texas was only at until%. we can start categorizing more numbers -- texas is only at 12%. we can start categorizing more numbers. i want them out on the street instead of filling out paperwork. but some money there in the state of texas. you can get all the statistics you want. >> two years from now, you may be campaigning for higher offices. when the web...